<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Why an OAuth iframe is a Great Idea</title>
	<atom:link href="http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133</link>
	<description></description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:01:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: findingdream123</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1348</link>
		<dc:creator>findingdream123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 08:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1348</guid>
		<description>In the 1960s, some Latin American countries tried to solve this problem&lt;br&gt;by setting up special &quot;return&quot; programs to encourage their&lt;br&gt;professionals to come back home. [url= &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.findingdream.com/wh...&lt;/a&gt;]wholesale hair&lt;br&gt;weave[/url]In the 1960s, some Latin American countries tried to solve this problem&lt;br&gt;by setting up special &quot;return&quot; programs to encourage their&lt;br&gt;professionals to come back home. [url= &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.findingdream.com/wh...&lt;/a&gt;]wholesale hair&lt;br&gt;weave[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1960s, some Latin American countries tried to solve this problem<br />by setting up special &#8220;return&#8221; programs to encourage their<br />professionals to come back home. [url= <a href="http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions" rel="nofollow">http://www.findingdream.com/wh...</a>]wholesale hair<br />weave[/url]In the 1960s, some Latin American countries tried to solve this problem<br />by setting up special &#8220;return&#8221; programs to encourage their<br />professionals to come back home. [url= <a href="http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions" rel="nofollow">http://www.findingdream.com/wh...</a>]wholesale hair<br />weave[/url]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: findingdream123</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1349</link>
		<dc:creator>findingdream123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2011 08:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1349</guid>
		<description>In the 1960s, some Latin American countries [url= &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.findingdream.com/wh...&lt;/a&gt;]wholesale hair&lt;br&gt;weave[/url]&lt;br&gt;In the 1960s, some Latin American countries [url= &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.findingdream.com/wh...&lt;/a&gt;]wholesale hair&lt;br&gt;weave[/url]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 1960s, some Latin American countries [url= <a href="http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions" rel="nofollow">http://www.findingdream.com/wh...</a>]wholesale hair<br />weave[/url]<br />In the 1960s, some Latin American countries [url= <a href="http://www.findingdream.com/wholesale-hair-weave-extensions" rel="nofollow">http://www.findingdream.com/wh...</a>]wholesale hair<br />weave[/url]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: audio codecs</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1322</link>
		<dc:creator>audio codecs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1322</guid>
		<description>Yep. I agree with you&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Just so you know, there&#039;s frame-busting code in the login page to prevent that sort of thing anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep. I agree with you</p>
<p>Just so you know, there&#39;s frame-busting code in the login page to prevent that sort of thing anyway.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: basketball shoes</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>basketball shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 06:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1303</guid>
		<description>Here elaborates the &lt;a href=&quot;http://cake-like.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cake-like.com&lt;/a&gt; matter not only extensively but also detailly .I support the write&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://cake-like.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cake-like.com&lt;/a&gt; unique point.It is useful and benefit to your daily life.You can &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cake-like.com&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;cake-like.com&lt;/a&gt;  go those sits to know more relate things.They are strongly recommended by friends.Personally</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here elaborates the <a href="http://cake-like.com" rel="nofollow">cake-like.com</a> matter not only extensively but also detailly .I support the write&#39;s <a href="http://cake-like.com" rel="nofollow">cake-like.com</a> unique point.It is useful and benefit to your daily life.You can <a href="http://www.cake-like.com"  rel="nofollow">cake-like.com</a>  go those sits to know more relate things.They are strongly recommended by friends.Personally</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: air max shoes</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1280</link>
		<dc:creator>air max shoes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2010 11:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1280</guid>
		<description>I totally agree the standpoint of upstairs, and I believe this will be a trend. I often come this forum , rom here I learn much and know the newest tide! the content here  constantly update and I love it! Another I know some websites which often update their contents, you guys should browse if &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.into321.net&quot;  rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;into321&lt;/a&gt;  you are free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree the standpoint of upstairs, and I believe this will be a trend. I often come this forum , rom here I learn much and know the newest tide! the content here  constantly update and I love it! Another I know some websites which often update their contents, you guys should browse if <a href="http://www.into321.net"  rel="nofollow">into321</a>  you are free.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: simonwillison</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>simonwillison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 17:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-1077</guid>
		<description>Please, please don&#039;t do this.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;As web developers we have a shared responsibility to help our users stay safe on the internet. This is becoming ever more important as people move more of their lives online.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;It&#039;s an almost sisyphean task. If you want to avoid online fraud, you need to understand an enormous stack of technologies: browsers, web pages, links, URLs, DNS, SSL, certificates... I know user education is never the right answer, but in the case of the Web I honestly can&#039;t see any other route.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;The last thing we need is developers making the problem worse by encouraging unsafe behaviour. That was the whole POINT of OAuth - the password anti-pattern was showing up everywhere, and was causing very real problems. OAuth provides an alternative, but we still have a long way to go convincing users not to hand their password over to any site that asks for it. Still, it&#039;s a small victory in a much bigger war.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;If developers start showing OAuth in an iframe, that victory was for nothing - we may as well not have bothered. OAuth isn&#039;t just a protocol, it&#039;s an ambitious attempt to help users understand the importance of protecting their credentials, and the fact that different sites should be granted different permissions with regards to accessing their stuff. This is a difficult but critical lesson for users to learn. The only real hope is if OAuth, implemented correctly, spreads far enough around the Web that people start to understand it and get a feel for how it is meant to work.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;By implementing OAuth in an iframe you are completely undermining this effort - and in doing so you&#039;re contributing to a tragedy of the commons where selfish behaviour on the behalf of a few causes problems for everyone else. Even worse, if the usability DOES prove to be better (which wouldn&#039;t be surprising) you&#039;ll be actively encouraging people to implement OAuth in an insecure way - your competitors will hardly want to keep doing things the secure way if you are getting higher conversion rates than they are.&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt; &lt;br&gt;So once again, please don&#039;t do this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, please don&#039;t do this.</p>
<p>As web developers we have a shared responsibility to help our users stay safe on the internet. This is becoming ever more important as people move more of their lives online.</p>
<p>It&#039;s an almost sisyphean task. If you want to avoid online fraud, you need to understand an enormous stack of technologies: browsers, web pages, links, URLs, DNS, SSL, certificates&#8230; I know user education is never the right answer, but in the case of the Web I honestly can&#039;t see any other route.</p>
<p>The last thing we need is developers making the problem worse by encouraging unsafe behaviour. That was the whole POINT of OAuth &#8211; the password anti-pattern was showing up everywhere, and was causing very real problems. OAuth provides an alternative, but we still have a long way to go convincing users not to hand their password over to any site that asks for it. Still, it&#039;s a small victory in a much bigger war.</p>
<p>If developers start showing OAuth in an iframe, that victory was for nothing &#8211; we may as well not have bothered. OAuth isn&#039;t just a protocol, it&#039;s an ambitious attempt to help users understand the importance of protecting their credentials, and the fact that different sites should be granted different permissions with regards to accessing their stuff. This is a difficult but critical lesson for users to learn. The only real hope is if OAuth, implemented correctly, spreads far enough around the Web that people start to understand it and get a feel for how it is meant to work.</p>
<p>By implementing OAuth in an iframe you are completely undermining this effort &#8211; and in doing so you&#039;re contributing to a tragedy of the commons where selfish behaviour on the behalf of a few causes problems for everyone else. Even worse, if the usability DOES prove to be better (which wouldn&#039;t be surprising) you&#039;ll be actively encouraging people to implement OAuth in an insecure way &#8211; your competitors will hardly want to keep doing things the secure way if you are getting higher conversion rates than they are.</p>
<p>So once again, please don&#039;t do this.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Who is Hahleq? : Items I found interesting on July 15th through July 22nd</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>Who is Hahleq? : Items I found interesting on July 15th through July 22nd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 04:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-753</guid>
		<description>[...] Why an OAuth iframe is a Great Idea &#8211; Good explanation of a clear use case around the issues of &quot;mashups&quot; and inter-site trust. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Why an OAuth iframe is a Great Idea &#8211; Good explanation of a clear use case around the issues of &quot;mashups&quot; and inter-site trust. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Torgeir</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-727</link>
		<dc:creator>Torgeir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:44:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-727</guid>
		<description>I don&#039;t understand why you all fear URLs so much. 
 
More and more browsers are adding security indications to the URL bar, and teaching user to pay attention to it is already a good idea. 
 
Easy isn&#039;t always good, and as Parsingphase points out; this iframe float will only teach users to trust &quot;check if your computer is infected&quot; adds. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#039;t understand why you all fear URLs so much.</p>
<p>More and more browsers are adding security indications to the URL bar, and teaching user to pay attention to it is already a good idea.</p>
<p>Easy isn&#039;t always good, and as Parsingphase points out; this iframe float will only teach users to trust &quot;check if your computer is infected&quot; adds.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Parsingphase</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>Parsingphase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-720</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but this is raging lunacy. You want to teach people to type their password on one site into any arbitrary other site? How many &quot;regular users&quot; even know what an iframe is anyway? What about sites with ads - should we tempt users to type their passwords into random advertisements? 
 
This is not a weakness of Oauth; it goes deeper, into the structure of the web and the browser. But you&#039;re not going to make it better this way. 
 
Seriously, teach a man to get phished and you&#039;ll **** him up for life. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m sorry, but this is raging lunacy. You want to teach people to type their password on one site into any arbitrary other site? How many &quot;regular users&quot; even know what an iframe is anyway? What about sites with ads &#8211; should we tempt users to type their passwords into random advertisements?</p>
<p>This is not a weakness of Oauth; it goes deeper, into the structure of the web and the browser. But you&#039;re not going to make it better this way.</p>
<p>Seriously, teach a man to get phished and you&#039;ll **** him up for life.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ryszard Szopa</title>
		<link>http://drstarcat.com/archives/133/comment-page-1#comment-719</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryszard Szopa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 02:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://drstarcat.com/?p=133#comment-719</guid>
		<description>Well, there&#039;s nothing we can do about it: this danger is intrinsic to OAuth (and, let&#039;s face it, any authorization system). On the bright side, the user can always deauthorize the token on the provider&#039;s site if he suspects something fishy is going on. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#039;s nothing we can do about it: this danger is intrinsic to OAuth (and, let&#039;s face it, any authorization system). On the bright side, the user can always deauthorize the token on the provider&#039;s site if he suspects something fishy is going on.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

